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  Jehovah's Witness Child Molester

  by free2beme in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my best man at my wedding, twenty years ago, was someone i always trusted.

  he was a friend for fishing, a friend who remained when i left the religion with my wife 15 years ago and although he was a bit issolated.

  i kind of trusted him.

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  And what fuss will be made of the perp when he gets in good standing again, pioneering behind bars. what a marvelous god jehovah is, so loving and merciful to have allowed a lost sheep to be found.

  never mind the ones he chased out of the faith.

  oz
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  2+2=5 cited this fact about the shrinking amount of elders. Perhaps the coming implosion?

  by wha happened? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.

  there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.

  there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.

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  I would surmise that the WT are fully aware of the slow death and are prepared for it.

  I can see at JW world where the growth of years past are replaced by decreases, not just odd ones here and there but marked globally noticable and not denied by the GB. In fact, used by the GB to keep themselves relevant.

  As numbers reverse and congregations are merged instead of split off and made to share halls, they will also have the obvious elder bleed. It would not be inconceivable for them to drop the current elder, MS arrangement with a bit of new light and go back to the old days of one person as congregation servant. One man in charge of each congregation, laying the law down exactly as issued down the line. Maybe even allowing sisiters to do a few things as they do in areas of very low male publishers.

  They are getting tighter and more culty than ever with the whole obey attitude. Losses are easy to pass off to the rank and file as being cleansed from the organization. Easy to tell the rank and file that the end is so close that there is no need for more congregations, it's time to bunker down and obey even more than ever, the preaching work is all but finished to 'jehovahs' satisfaction.

  I see smaller groups, tightly controlled by less men weilding greater power. The low pool of good men willing to be used will leave the bottom dwellers to rise as 'elders' to abuse the flock. Something that will no doubt suit the corrupt men at the top while they screw as much money as they can from the sheep to keep themselves in comfort.

  I see them becoming less relevant (is that possible?) than ever and becoming a quaint little fly under the radar high control group with meetings in gated conventions. One that people will by and large forget about as some annoying door knockers of days gone by.

  Not a pretty situation for those that remain in.

  Oz
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  2+2=5 cited this fact about the shrinking amount of elders. Perhaps the coming implosion?

  by wha happened? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.

  there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.

  there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.

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  Marked to come back to later...
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  Dilemna on shepherding

  by happy@last in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife told me of a friend of hers who is going through a difficult time in their life.

  they are what i would describe as a 'blind follower' of wt teachings, but it does give them structure that would otherwise not be there in their life.

  anyhow, this person is having a tough time, the elders know about it and yet not one of them has either visited or called to see how they are!.

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  The elders are doing nothing because there is nothing they can do.

  When elders visit the weak its to try to get them into service, when elders visit the strong it's for a coffee.

  Your wife can do more than elders ever will. That may well wake her up more than anything.

  oz
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  What Was Your "Status" Within The Organization?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  were you a sought after associate?.

  were you often invisible?.

  did other witnesses view you as "exemplary"?.

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  Baptised at 18, and considered good enough to open mettings with prayer. During my twenties I was considered an 'idiot', told so by an elder and a wannabe elder MS on a shepherding call. man i wish i had seen the light right then and there!

  Worked hard to be spiritual after that and became a regular pioneer along with wife, became a MS, did accounts, went on shepherding calls. Moved to serve where the need was great? at the beach no less! We were the congs golden children, the ones most likely to succeed, went to all the gilead meetings at conventions, applied and were accepted for bethel construction in Oz, had to cancel as we got knocked up.

  I was on a fast track to elder as best i could tell, I mean, the elder body just loved me, everyone did. I dont mean to sound like i had tickets on myself, i mean to say they had great expectations because were were real popular and seen as good asscociation.

  I gave public talks around adelaide and even interstate, took a bookstudy if the elder was sick, Amazing what you can do when you are trying to kill your authentic self.

  Then i dropped the bomb about my double life, my dead faith, my disbeleif in god caring. They were so desperate to keep me as an MS they let me remain as one until I said no more.

  Funny thing is that i never saw any shonky elders, no golden handshakes, was never privy to scandels. I was so dumb that i never questioned a single 'truth'. What i questioned was my own evilness and lack of faith.

  I disapeared from WT life like a blown light bulb. Not one single 'friend' ever ever approached me again even though they knew no details (other than what my now hateful wife must have told them)

  All that confirmed to me that they were false friends every single solitary one of them. There is not a genuine caring bone in that god forsaken evildom of a 'religion'

  So glad to have left.

  Oz
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  How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ..... you to stop attending ?

  injustices ?

  disagree with the teachings ?

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  I stopped in 1998.

  I had lost all trust that I mattered to God. My internal battles over the flesh and spirituality near killed me literally. I didnt think prayer did anything other than bounce off the ceiling and was nothing more than an empty ritual at meetings. I studied and prayed like crazy and nothing, nadda, zip. Nothing from the so called caring god, not one blip of transmission or even comfort. The elders were useless, just repeating WT rhetoric of pray and study.

  I pretty much decided I wanted to be a 'worldly person', free from the things in christianity that were sucking the life out of me. They were crushing me to death by making what were normal things and desires into signs of evilness.

  I dropped all 'privledges' and stopped door to door, then all meetings. It was a horrible time of my life, my wife loathed me. I left the marriage. As hard as that was, I still believe it was the correct thing to do.

  life since has had a few downs, but nothing like being a JW, just normal stuff. I am glad to say that with no support group around, i was able to repair the damage to my self and build a new life. A real good one, far better than anything i could have had as a WT slave.

  Oz
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  WatchTower 1/2013 Not THE END again?!

  by BlindersOff1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  another interesting video by "the snarky apologist" on youtube.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3aqh5xnzxa&feature=em-uploademail.

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  And if that fire lookout guy reports 20 false alarms...HE LOSES HIS JOB you dumb pricks!

  Why do they need to keep alert so that jesus accepts them? I though he already did that in 1919...

  Oz
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  Another sad non jw falling for a baptised jw girl story

  by spirituk in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  ok ,so this is my story , this jw girl came on vacation in my country as a friend of my girl-cousin who is not a jw but were classmates at uni .

  my cousin introduced her to me but she didnt tell me that she was a jw from the very first moment we flirt each other.we went on beach ,on bars ,cafes etc and she acted so wordly ,in fact i thought she could be a good one night stand with her behaviour .never saw anything weird about her that could lead me to question something, with the peak in the club where we danced together while hugging very passionatly .

  i tried to kiss her that night but she kept her distance , i didnt notice any bad on that.anyway, next day we flirt again at the the beach and at night too .

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  She had her fun, accused you of being different so she could ease her conscience.

  you should have listened to your friend at the start and not pursued her.

  you know the right answer, you just don't want to hear it...so hear it is;

  RUN

  how loud do need that yelled?

  oz
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  JWs have not "disfellowshipped" anyone publicly in several years

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you want to get technical, jws have not "disfellowshipped" anyone publicly in several years.

  they stopped saying,.

  "joe blow has been disfellowshipped.

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  I think a few changes helps to show how banal and sick they are:

  Later that day, during lunch, Katty, an inactive

  deaf knitter, approached Gabriela to ask about

  the craft show. Gabriela replied frankly: “It was

  beautiful! But now as a professional knitter, I want to

  stay faithful to wool. So I must let you know

  that I can’t be your friend anymore because you use Nylon.

  Being your friend can affect my

  status in the craft. You need to change. It’s important

  to get back to wool and also to talk with

  the senior knitters. I know you can change for the better.”

  Thanks to Gabriela’s forthright but loving admonition,

  Katty talked with the senior knitters, received a new ball of wool

  , and became active in knitting once again.
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  please help

  by joyfulfader in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am posting to ask this group of wonderful people to help my friend who is with me now.

  we are discussing her serious doubts and the barriers she is facing as the wife of an elder with small children.

  she is desperately looking for help to pull away without causing dissention in her otherwise very good marriage.

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  I would also suggest she settle in for the long haul

  She will be unlikely to wake up her husband in a month. This would have to be a well planned exit, starting with self education and months of planning. Then the dropping little bits and asking the awkward questions gently gently.

  that would be my approach at any rate...I wish your friend well, she is in a good place here, the advice i got when i joined was huge in helping me reach my teenagers with TTATT

  Oz